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I have come across a very unique W123 a 1979 wagon

The sum of options found on this wagon makes it so unique and it just may have stopped by AMG before arriving in North America.

The list of option begins with a very early tuned M117 5.0L engine, complete with AMG tubular steel headers and downpipes. A 4 speed automatic is installed, mated to a limited slip rear differential. Lastly, the stamped steal rear suspension made way for a cast aluminum anti-dive system.

The list of other options include:

Full AMG Body Kit
Recaro Ideal C seats
Sport Suspension
Euro bumpers
Euro headlights
Independent Transmission and Engine oil coolers

Any thoughts, feedback and insight is always appreciated. Thank you.

» We have put together a website dedicated to the pre-merger or classic AMG
» vehicles.
»
» I hope you enjoy and visit often.
»
» http://www.mercedes-AMG-classic.com
»
» Cheers,
» Henric

Hello and Happy New Year,

We\'ve had a good response to the website so far. Any feedback from those who have visited, would be appreciated. We want to appeal to all classic AMG enthusiasts across the globe.

Best Regards,
Henric

We have put together a website dedicated to the pre-merger or classic AMG vehicles.

I hope you enjoy and visit often.

http://www.mercedes-AMG-classic.com

Cheers,
Henric

» Falls ja- wo war das??
»
»

Carshine, Australia.

The owner of one of the wide body is said to be a Real Estate agent in Melbourne, Australia by the name of Ray Trowthe.

More information here:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-…tml#post4877330

Enjoy!

» » »
» » » Technical details will most likely only be available from those who
» » » originally assembled the dohc units back in the day and those actively
» » » rebuilding them.
» » The big problem is that Hans Werner Alfrect ( I think,from memory)
» » designed the heads but wasn\'t actually working for AMG and hadn\'t been
» » since 1970. He did a lot work as consultant and still does for AMG .
» Your
» » best bet is to speak with him as there wouldn\'t be anyone at AMG who has
» a
» » clue about the company pre 1988. Do you need parts like valves etc ?
» have
» » good long look at things like the valves as I have found that AMG used a
» » lot of stuff from the Daimler parts bin. Good luck!
»
» It was actually Melcher.
»
» I\'m really only lacking specifications. These specs can and will be
» identified by an experienced machinist who has built a number of them but
» it\'s been a few years. I\'d like to gather as much data as possible to help
» the build go as smoothly and effeciently as possible.
»
» There\'s said to be a number of the tech still around in Germany.
» Unfortunately many are not online and are not fluent in English.
»
» I\'d be curious also as to some of the reasons behind the evolution of these
» engines over years as changes were made.
»
» There are several fellow German enthusiasts I can lean on for assistance
» should the language be the issue.
»
» Thanks for any and all assistance.
»
» Cheers,
» Henric

I suspect that there was alao some sort of installation manual for these motors as there were modifications needed to accommodate these within the w126 chassis.

» »
» » Technical details will most likely only be available from those who
» » originally assembled the dohc units back in the day and those actively
» » rebuilding them.
» The big problem is that Hans Werner Alfrect ( I think,from memory)
» designed the heads but wasn\'t actually working for AMG and hadn\'t been
» since 1970. He did a lot work as consultant and still does for AMG . Your
» best bet is to speak with him as there wouldn\'t be anyone at AMG who has a
» clue about the company pre 1988. Do you need parts like valves etc ? have
» good long look at things like the valves as I have found that AMG used a
» lot of stuff from the Daimler parts bin. Good luck!

It was actually Melcher.

I\'m really only lacking specifications. These specs can and will be identified by an experienced machinist who has built a number of them but it\'s been a few years. I\'d like to gather as much data as possible to help the build go as smoothly and effeciently as possible.

There\'s said to be a number of the tech still around in Germany. Unfortunately many are not online and are not fluent in English.

I\'d be curious also as to some of the reasons behind the evolution of these engines over years as changes were made.

There are several fellow German enthusiasts I can lean on for assistance should the language be the issue.

Thanks for any and all assistance.

Cheers,
Henric

This is a w123 I had the chance to see in person! 500ce:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-…tml#post3636853

» http://img839.imageshack.us/i/1984b1.jpg/
» http://img713.imageshack.us/i/1984b3.jpg/
» http://img834.imageshack.us/i/1984b9.jpg/
» http://img841.imageshack.us/i/1984b7.jpg/
» http://img153.imageshack.us/i/1984b6.jpg/

This is one of the more highly optioned w126 sedans out there and owned by an AMG enthusiast in the US.

5.4 SOHC solid lifter AMG engine, headers and down pipes.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-…estoration.html

» Aktuelle Bilder.
» Das ist doch der hier, oder?
» https://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum…ry.php?id=87593
»

What pistons did Brabus and AMG use for their 6.0L conversions? Rumor has it that Porsche 928 100mm pistons were used.

Lots of valuable 300kph AMG speedo information here:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-…tml#post3953713

» Hallo Zusammen,
»
» gibt es Links oder Hinweise auf AMG-Version des 107er mit m117 ?
»
» Ich meine die 5.0 bzw. 6.0L oder die 32-Ventiler Versionen ?
»
» Dank und Grüsse aus Kölle
» Stefan

It is said that the m117 32v was too wide to fit between shock towers within the engine bay of the107. So, only SOHC 6.0 exist.

Here is a link to my 1982 500sl manual transmission AMG m117 5.0.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-…tml#post3629240

» Talbir Bains knows a lot about those engines. He is between the UK and USA
» a lot .[link=http://www.linkedin.com/pub/talbir-bains/15/86/3a3]Talbir
» Bains Linked in page .[/link]
»
» he\'s an Actuary in the city of london but also owns a lot of serious mercs.
» http://mercedes-190.co.uk/topic/6670618/1/

Yes I am familiar with Talbir and he has yet to reply. Jonathan Hodgman of BlueRidge MB has actually had a number of these and has been very helpful with information.

Technical details will most likely only be available from those who originally assembled the dohc units back in the day and those actively rebuilding them.

» i considered writing that they\'re a little ... well ... unapproachable
» there. but it seems that you\'ve already found out.
»
»
»
» nevertheless - good luck!

thank you!

» Hello, wish you a lot of fun here.
» Try to ask here.
» http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/home
» Very nice projekt, it is nice to see, that you have saved and gives the
» widebody new life, great. Thanks alot

Thank you for your support, appreciation and links.

I am familiar with both of those websites. Unfortunately there are very few people that are intimately familiar with these old 4V motors. Even when I contacted AMG directly numerous times during the build, they finally replied after nearly a year to say that they no longer have any information on the old stuff and wished me luck. lol

There is a gentlemen here in the US that knows these quite well but information is still lacking at this time.

Look forward to further technical specifications on this old classic in due time.

» hey henric,
»
» maybe you can get some help here:
»
» http://forum.amg-owners-club.org/amg-fahrzeuge-…43ac580cd1c033e
»
» good luck!

Thank you for the link. I am familiar with that site and have posted a number of questions and requests there. Unfortunately all of my postings are moved to the English Talk section and it seems there is very little traffic there.

As you can see:

http://forum.amg-owners-club.org/public-forum-a…g-m117-dohc-4v/

Thanks again!

» So you are the Man behind the Arizona Project? veeeery nice.
» Hope you get help here.

Thank you. Yes I am responsible for Project Arizona and the Rise of the Phönix.

I look forward to sharing more information for anyone that is interested.

All the best,
Henric

Hello,

I have recently secured an almost complete AMG M117 5.0 DOHC 4V motor. I am missing the valves, valve springs, cups and retainers. Is anyone familiar with which pieces AMG used? Specifications? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

All the best,
Henric

» Project Arizona ist das gewesen
» Also der Widebody war doch verschrottet, er hat nur WideBoby und Motor
» spendiert. Basis Fahrz. ist andere gewesen- der hier
»
»
» http://forum.amg-owners-club.org/public-forum-a…ide-body-story/
»
»


The AMG M117 4V has only recently become a part of the project as it was secured separately. The original wide body rescued from Phoenix, AZ provided many valuable pieces and valuable information for my project and others.

Widebody Kit 13 pieces
AMG M117 5.4L SOHC motor
AMG/Gleason Torsen 3.06 Limited Slip Differential
and many spare parts.



The entire build can be read here as well:

Rise of the Phönix

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» http://www.ebay.de/itm/W126-SE-SE…84#ht_690wt_702

I believe this kit was removed from this sedan.

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